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  • ponymusic
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 123

    #16
    Originally posted by blacksmithden
    Oh....we had that discussion with the CFO inspector when we were getting our firearm dealers license. There is exactly ONE way to pull that off. You MUST have a contract with a government agency that is allowed to buy unpinned magazines. Even then, ordering in a bunch in that aren't done, and pinning half of them to be sold to the public is not allowed. That being said, I know of at least one retailer who's doing it quietly. No, it's not us. No it's not Marstar (that I know of) and I'm not going to elaborate because that's just being a rat. I just know it's being done.

    The official answer is NO NO NO, they aren't allowed to do that.
    Hopefully no CFO types ever read your post. It might be 'uncomfortable' for you when your licence renewal time comes.

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    • Marshall
      • Dec 2014
      • 330

      #17
      Originally posted by Foxer
      Well you need to find out. It may not be illegal for them to ship them, but it sure as hell will be illegal for you to get them here if they're not pinned.

      Your only other option if you live close to the border is to order them to a us mail or parcel receiving service (there are many and cheap, only costs when the parcel comes in) and then go and pin them yourself before bringing it back across the border. Take some snap caps to show the guard i guess.
      With all due respect Foxer, that is bad advice.
      Fact is it's illegal to export them from the US unless you are registered with the DDTC. The CBSA (Canadian Customs) won't care, but if you get stopped at a random check by the CBP (US Customs) on the way out - yes they do that - the best case scenario is that they confiscate your parts and put you on a list that will get you shaken down every time you head south from then until forever. This applies to all firearms parts listed on the USML (United State Munitions List)... including ammo.

      Here's a link to the USML for reference... https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulat...R_Part_121.pdf

      If you have any questions about this please let me know and I'll be happy to provide clarification.
      It's Not Always a Matter of Need...

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      • Foxer
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 17799

        #18
        Originally posted by Marshall
        With all due respect Foxer, that is bad advice.
        Fact is it's illegal to export them from the US unless you are registered with the DDTC. The CBSA (Canadian Customs) won't care, but if you get stopped at a random check by the CBP (US Customs) on the way out - yes they do that - the best case scenario is that they confiscate your parts and put you on a list that will get you shaken down every time you head south from then until forever. This applies to all firearms parts listed on the USML (United State Munitions List)... including ammo.

        Here's a link to the USML for reference... https://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulat...R_Part_121.pdf

        If you have any questions about this please let me know and I'll be happy to provide clarification.
        Ahh - so you'd skirt our magazine laws only to run afoul of the american export laws.

        So much for 'free trade'

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        • Marshall
          • Dec 2014
          • 330

          #19
          Originally posted by Foxer
          Ahh - so you'd skirt our magazine laws only to run afoul of the american export laws.

          So much for 'free trade'
          Sad but true... Freedom isn't Free afterall. I know hundreds of us get away with on a regular basis, especially with ammo, but we all should know the risk.
          It's Not Always a Matter of Need...

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          • lone-wolf
            Go Canucks Go!
            • Apr 2012
            • 18049

            #20
            One thing I'd like to see is KCI magazines, specifically for the m1 carbine.
            the wild still lingered in him and the wolf in him merely slept

            "It must be poor life that achieves freedom from fear" - Aldo Leopold

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            • Marshall
              • Dec 2014
              • 330

              #21
              Originally posted by lone-wolf
              One thing I'd like to see is KCI magazines, specifically for the m1 carbine.
              I do have a source for those. They aren't showing up on our site, but I think the price would be $19.95 each. I'd have to double check that price, but let me know if you're interested.
              That would be for a 30 round mag, pinned to 5 rounds and then imported. There would be shipping and GST, but no other charges.
              It's Not Always a Matter of Need...

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              • lone-wolf
                Go Canucks Go!
                • Apr 2012
                • 18049

                #22
                What about the 5/15rd ones? I prefer them for the m1.

                It's not something I will be ordering right away, but sometime this year I'd like to order some oem glock 22 & m1 carbine magazines.
                the wild still lingered in him and the wolf in him merely slept

                "It must be poor life that achieves freedom from fear" - Aldo Leopold

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                • Marshall
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 330

                  #23
                  I completely understand... I use only 10 rounders in mine. I don't like the look of the oversize ones.

                  Here's a link to our page of 30 Carbine mags. All would be blocked to 5 rounds... http://www.aztecharmory.com/30-carbine-c-582_160.html

                  And here's what we have for Glock .40 mags. All would be blocked to 10 rounds (unless they are factory 10 rounders)... http://www.aztecharmory.com/40-sw-c-...67&sort=2a

                  Also, as with KCI, we can get just about anything, so if you find something somewhere else, just let us know and we'll see what we can do.
                  It's Not Always a Matter of Need...

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                  • lone-wolf
                    Go Canucks Go!
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 18049

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Marshall
                    I completely understand... I use only 10 rounders in mine. I don't like the look of the oversize ones.
                    What brand are you using?
                    the wild still lingered in him and the wolf in him merely slept

                    "It must be poor life that achieves freedom from fear" - Aldo Leopold

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                    • Marshall
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 330

                      #25
                      Originally posted by lone-wolf
                      What brand are you using?
                      First let me correct myself... I said 10 round, but I meant 15 round. Mostly just old USGI ones. I pick them up at gun shows in the states whenever I can... Usually pay about 15 bucks. Let me know if you want some of those and I'll keep my eye out for them.
                      It's Not Always a Matter of Need...

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                      • lone-wolf
                        Go Canucks Go!
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 18049

                        #26
                        Yea, usgi is supposed to be the best, I have a kci one though and it seems well made and functions well.
                        Just the 'last shot hold open' follower is annoying in it, pointless.
                        Don't bother looking out for usgi ones on my behalf, but some 15rd KCI ones in the future I'd be interested in when I'm ready to order.
                        the wild still lingered in him and the wolf in him merely slept

                        "It must be poor life that achieves freedom from fear" - Aldo Leopold

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                        • Marshall
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 330

                          #27
                          Okay, just let me know when you're ready and we'll source them for you.
                          It's Not Always a Matter of Need...

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