Alternative News Media - Where does it belong on GOC?

[loki]

Looks like the move on CGN to pretty much censor the alternative media is causing some pretty hearty discussion over there too.

I agree the whole idea of a separate forum was more of a suggestion to CGN as opposed to over here - but again I reiterate, I think it's a bad call for them to adopt a policy of censorship the way they did. Really, I get the impression that a handful of mods there just didn't agree with a lot of stuff being posted and decided to filter it from general circulation to prevent discussion.

Again, I hope the lesson (especially for GOC's owners and mods) is learnt that if you want to alienate your user base (who in are your clients), follow the lead of CGN and regulate and censor discussions. My impression as well surrounding GOC's history is due to poor decisions made by CGN's owners/mods, there was a fairly large exodus of users (many forced), creating the demand for alternatives.

I think their recent News regulation policy is another example of one poor decisions, and I believe one that will chase a lot of their users away. As I said, I kept going back to CGN for the EE and for the Pony discussions, but I think their posture of limiting discussion on their board justifies making an exodus.

I hope their loss is GOC's gain, because some of the folks who were worked up about the changes are some pretty sharp folks (not myself, of course, but certainly some of their other offended regulars).

Exodus? The hyperbole is strong with this one.

First since the upgrade in the Vbulletin CGN has grown by more users than GOC has as an entire memberbase. That's two months at most that it took, and CGN has done this without mass PM's inviting people from another forum (poor form BTW guys, a big forum etiquette faux pas). If it were an exodus I would think we would be seeing a faster membership growth in the other Canadian gun forums.

Also Harbl I looked in on your "Manly thread of pink ponies" at CGN for the first time today, the change in title caught my attention as I thought it was another "no touchy" subject which made me wonder what would have gone on. Gotta say that seeing it was just you taking your ball and leaving the sandbox while still leaving an email addy presumably for the attempt to invite members here looks to be in very poor show to say it politely. If you had a problem and enough support your opinion then voice it in OT, if enough show support then perhaps there could be a change.

I have no clue what went on there, it looks like some people complained about the amount of fringe and outright out to lunch "news" articles. I think you have to admit it was getting bad and required moderation, and that's what happens with areas of discussion like this when they get bad; they get moderated. I don't like being told what to do or what to speak about as much as the next guy, but that's what happens on a PRIVATE forum. Seriously try to start a "manscaping" or "worlds best private female body part" thread here and see how long it lasts. You have no right to free speech here, or on CGN as it's a PRIVATE owned forum. Now that the dust has settled it seems to be the same old show around there with only the rules in place to moderate the idocy that was going on.

You can bet that if the new digest around here got inundated with a tribute to Alex Jones and prison planet (yes this is me using hyperbole to get across a point of ludacris tinfoil needing moderation, I realize this wasn't exactly the case) with no actual fisical proof to back up his (sometimes ludacris) claims that this new digest will be moderated as well. Sack up man and go fight the good fight, if others support you with a reasonable and logical debate then you may effect change. Taking your ball and playing elsewhere will only lead to you abanding other communities such as this one as they develop moderation rules with growth and requirement due to idiocy.

*Edit* As a side note if I seem to be a little stand offish with this I'm getting sick of the "us vs them" attitude in the general shooting and online Canadian communities. Not meant to be directed at the members as such as truly I feel dilution through elitism only hurts the cause of firearms ownership rather than helps it. If anything we should use all the tools and communities we have to join forces rather than seperate and dilute. I'm willing to put up with some issues that may bother me in orgs, forums, and clubs so long as it keeps a cohesive message without infighting and elitism and I feel thinking one community is superior to another only serves to achieve the opposite of what we all want. My $0.02.

[50calshooter]

Too much drama here,

Closed for now.