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  • Canuck 4393
    Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 83

    #1

    Do I need a range membership?

    Hi all sorry if this is a dumb question but hey I'm a newb, So I'm wondering if I need to have a range membership to buy a pistol? I'm on three different waiting lists one that I guy I work with has been on for like two and a half years!! The other only has intake in November. So I'm wanting to have a pistol when I'm able to go use it not wait another x amount of time. Thanks


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  • awndray
    Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 22977

    #2
    Short legal answer: no, you don't. Complex CFO answer: yes, you do.

    Enjoy these frustrating reads:

    http://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/show...gun-no-ATT-yet
    http://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/show...-Specific-Laws
    http://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/show...1-ATT-Question

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    • Canuck 4393
      Member
      • Sep 2014
      • 83

      #3
      Hey man thanks, good thing I have nothing else to do this afternoon I'll bet there is a lot of reading there


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      • blacksmithden
        The Gunsmithing Moderator
        • Apr 2012
        • 29589

        #4
        The best thing to do is call up the CFO's office and ask. They change their own internal policies (aka- make up the law as they go along) with no notice to anyone. Tell them that you're going to be getting one, but there's a wait list...whatever. Can I still buy one now while I'm waiting to get into xyz-club ?
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        • Canuck 4393
          Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 83

          #5
          That's probably the best way to go, no guessing


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          • Drache
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 8428

            #6
            What province are you in? That is the easiest way to tell

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            • Waynetheman
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1699

              #7
              In Bc you can just join silvercore while you wait. It's not a range but it IS a "club"
              Please refer to me as Waynetheperson, I wouldn't want to offend anyone.

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              • Hornychief
                Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 90

                #8
                I live on the border of Alberta and Saskatchewan. Great little dirt ball called Lloyd. When I asked I was told I had to be part of my local piston club to make my life easier with restricted because as big brother sees is why do you purchase restricted firearm and be unable to legally shoot it at the range. The part that sucks in your position is the long wait

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                • 3MTA3
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 6058

                  #9
                  When you buy a restricted firearm in Ontario, the retailer will typically ask you what club you belong to. You can answer with the club you intend to join. The transfer may or may not be questioned. Silvercore method has been used in Ontario but I think that method is dead ended now You will get a variety of answers on this subject, but in Ontario, for most people, for the time being, you need to join a club to get a restricted firearm for practical purposes, and to join a club and attend a "ATT course" in order to use it at the club. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part this is the case. Some ranges might even demand that you have evidence of training beyond the basic RPAL and ATT course before you can participate in events(even non competitive)- but that is a separate issue.

                  In the future if the provincial CFO has their way I doubt you will be able to use a range on your own,- you will be required to shoot under a trained RSO at specified time- but that is just conjecture based on interactions with them.
                  "You Cannot Comply Your Way Out of Tyranny"

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                  • Steveo9mm
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 3888

                    #10
                    Welcome to the convoluted world of gun ownership.
                    MΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                    • BigRhino
                      Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 56

                      #11
                      I myself have gone the silvercore route and its been fine for 4 years now. I am also on wait lists and have been for 2 years. Its kind of bull**** that a guy has to wait that long but thems the breaks I guess.

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                      • Edenchef
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 4755

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steveo9mm View Post
                        Welcome to the convoluted world of gun hating bureaucrats and their arbitrary regulations.
                        Corrected for you.

                        Cheers!

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                        • bettercallsaul
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 1910

                          #13
                          I think it depends on the store, and what province it is in. I bought a restricted gun from a gun store on the east coast with the intention of having them ship it to me after I get my range membership, they said no need, they can mail to to me legally. Not sure why, I just said "okay great". It might have been because I was in the process of getting the membership.

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                          • bradzilla
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 13

                            #14
                            I was thinking of going that route too. (ordering online) . Figured it might be easier to have shipped to my door than run into any issues. Im applying for my memberships right now (trying two different ranges.. see how that pans out) . I just want my first restricted so I can get used to it. What I mean by that is the cleaning/care of it, teardown and rebuild (field strip I believe its called?..) Safe handling. Just familiarizing myself with it first.

                            If you were buying out of the message boards on here, and the seller agreed to come to your place for the sale, its the same as being mailed correct? no ATT needed, until you intend to take it to your range.
                            you buy cheap, you buy twice :-)

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                            • awndray
                              Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 22977

                              #15
                              Just because it's coming from a dealer doesn't mean the CFO will accept the transfer. When you make the purchase, whether from a store or from an individual, the seller will initiate a transfer of the restricted firearm. You must then call the CFO to complete the transfer. Regardless of whether it's a retail sale or a private sale, the CFO will ask you for the purpose of the firearm and which club you're a member of. If you're in the process of becoming a member, say so. They probably will, but it doesn't necessarily mean they'll approve it. It sucks that it has to be this way, but that's how the Ontario CFO operates.

                              As for a seller delivering it to you, he or she will need to obtain an ATT. You will not.

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