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  • r5s78
    Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 60

    #16
    Originally posted by Lee Enfield View Post
    When my son took his Pal/RPal he was the only one who passed the RPal. A friend of mine was the examiner and said the failures were epic.
    Did he give any indication as to what the students did wrong to fail?

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    • blacksmithden
      The Gunsmithing Moderator
      • Apr 2012
      • 29589

      #17
      Originally posted by r5s78 View Post
      Rather than being around $600 for all three courses it works out to around $450 for all three courses if I sign up for them all at once.




      *edited to change $cost of courses, I went back and looked again
      Whoah.....WHAT ???? How much are they charging if you just do the PAL and RPAL together ?!?! Either lunch had better be included, Im missing something, or that had better include both of you.
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      • LB303
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 8337

        #18
        Originally posted by blacksmithden View Post
        Whoah.....WHAT ???? How much are they charging if you just do the PAL and RPAL together ?!?! Either lunch had better be included, Im missing something, or that had better include both of you.
        Sounds about right for Ontari-owe. IIRC it was 160-ish for my PAL, had to pass that before I could reserve a spot in the RPAL course, another 100-odd for my RPAL, plus another 100-ish for ammo, then the hunter's course I had to wait for one to come up, and it was somewhere in the mid/high 100's and it involved a 2 hours drive each way on a February day that ended up being a blizzard... add my range key and holster course, we're in the 800 ballpark. plus 350 a year

        edit - they did feed us though, all of them
        oh yeah I forgot the turkey course. Well at least that's gone now
        Last edited by LB303; 03-14-2018, 12:55 AM.
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        • lone-wolf
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          • Apr 2012
          • 18036

          #19
          My courses costed whatever it was to send the paperwork in. $80?

          Ammo cost? They had you actually shoot?
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          • LB303
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 8337

            #20
            Yes! That was the 2nd day of the restricted course. Instructor had soooo many different guns, I just had to buy some different calibers
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            • RangeBob
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 121899

              #21
              My PAL/RPAL course was $100 each. $200 total. This was Ontario just over a decade ago.
              Class had about 20 students, with primary instructor and assistant, and two testers (practical and written) who came in for three hours the last day.
              All ammo was fake {plastic, snap caps, bullet&brass but no powder no primer and sometimes with an extra hole in the side of the brass in addition to the primer hole}. Firearms without firing pins where that was easy to do. No shooting.

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              • LB303
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 8337

                #22
                Everyone has their own teaching style I guess. An assistant is good when the class is large. My restricted class, there were 12 of us with one instructor.
                Demand is always high, and instructors are few and far between it seems. An artificial scarcity brought about by government meddling? At any rate, those of us that were functioning at a higher level allowed the others to have more face time in the shooting lanes, and it all worked out.
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                • Grimlock
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2017
                  • 4052

                  #23
                  I did my course when I was 14. There was only one firearms course, so you could get it and the hunter safety course in one weekend. The instructor charged the lowest fee he was legally allowed to. All firearms were the same ones he used, probably with the firing pins removed.

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                  • r5s78
                    Member
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 60

                    #24
                    Originally posted by blacksmithden View Post
                    Whoah.....WHAT ???? How much are they charging if you just do the PAL and RPAL together ?!?! Either lunch had better be included, Im missing something, or that had better include both of you.
                    These numbers include tax. I believe PAL and RPAL are $260 together (or $150 each on their own). My original numbers ($450 & $600) are a little rounded, but close enough for the point.

                    And yeah. Expensive.

                    My husband did his PAL/RPAL in Saskatchewan. It was a one day course and about $150, four years ago. The course I will be doing is one day for PAL, one day for RPAL and one day for OHEP.

                    They didn't say anything about food.

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                    • r5s78
                      Member
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 60

                      #25
                      Rather than going on memory I just dug up the information from their website.

                      The CFSC is $190.50. The CRFSC is $190.50 or $110.00 if having completed the CFSC within 30 days with same instructor. The OHEP course is $190.50 and does not list a discount if all three are signed up for at once, but the person I spoke with in person at the range said there is a package deal (which is where I got my original rough numbers).

                      Anyway ... I think I know what I'm going to do regarding the courses. The consensus I'm getting is that it would be worthwhile for me to do the OHEP as well as PAL/RPAL.

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                      • Dano68
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 175

                        #26
                        You said there may be a chance of you hunting. Do all three, you will be glad you did.
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                        • IJ22
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 2473

                          #27
                          Originally posted by r5s78 View Post
                          Rather than going on memory I just dug up the information from their website.

                          The CFSC is $190.50. The CRFSC is $190.50 or $110.00 if having completed the CFSC within 30 days with same instructor. The OHEP course is $190.50 and does not list a discount if all three are signed up for at once, but the person I spoke with in person at the range said there is a package deal (which is where I got my original rough numbers).

                          Anyway ... I think I know what I'm going to do regarding the courses. The consensus I'm getting is that it would be worthwhile for me to do the OHEP as well as PAL/RPAL.
                          Good choice. We did it the other way, out of ignorance. Never foresaw the need for an RPAL so just did the PAL. Needless to say a couple years later we were back doing the RPAL. Then a couple years later the OHEP. Glad you won't be repeating our mistake.

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                          • RandyN
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 2

                            #28
                            My wife and I did them both with no failures in the class but the instructor has in the past, during the RPAL, automatically failed someone, who inadvertently, pointed the handgun at or in the direction of a student, automatic fail, especially for someone who has not ever handled a handgun and tried to look for a safety and rolled it to the side to look, not noticing the barrel was pointed at the student next to them, automatic fail. It happens, I guess.

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                            • DuhBoredShooter
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 374

                              #29
                              Originally posted by blacksmithden View Post
                              Whoah.....WHAT ???? How much are they charging if you just do the PAL and RPAL together ?!?! Either lunch had better be included, Im missing something, or that had better include both of you.
                              In Ontario its 170 for the PAL and 110 for the RPAL, and with 13% tax you get to around $317
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                              • RobertMcC

                                #30
                                Originally posted by DuhBoredShooter View Post
                                In Ontario its 170 for the PAL and 110 for the RPAL, and with 13% tax you get to around $317
                                Highway Robbery. It was 50$ each per course. I paid 100$ +15% Taxes so, 115$ for both my PAL and RPAL course.

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