PAL renewal question

[ultimaix]

With an RPAL,conditions are printed on it,therefore,you must carry it with you. With a PAL,there's only a blank piece of paper. Why would it be required that we carry a blank? Toss it.....common sense.

I agree !
And on the back of the plastic RPAL or PAL there is a 'Conditions' section.
So why would we need to carry both ?

The issue I have is:
- this this a law?
- what is the penalty for not carrying this piece of paper?
- Can we laminate it?

Or are these just words on a piece of paper with no regulation or law backing it?
It states we need to be licenced, but I cannot find what we are required to produce to prove it.

What conditions do you have on your RPAL ?
I don't have any conditions on my RPAL.

[ESnel]

I don't have any conditions on my RPAL.

Yes you do, the attached conditions pertain to the ATT. It states what ATT conditions are automaticly covered and which conditions you nedd to apply for an ATT to transport a restricted firearm.

[ultimaix]

Yes you do, the attached conditions pertain to the ATT. It states what ATT conditions are automaticly covered and which conditions you nedd to apply for an ATT to transport a restricted firearm.

I have a RPAL but I have never owned a restricted weapon.
So both my licence and the conditions paper are blank?
(maybe this is adding to my confusion...)

Question
Are the conditions on your piece of paper also on the back of your licence?

[RangeBob]

I have a RPAL but I have never owned a restricted weapon.
So both my licence and the conditions paper are blank?

If you have an RPAL, you should have the piece of paper. It came with your licence card.

Are the conditions on your piece of paper also on the back of your licence?

No. They are different. The wording on the paper is more extensive, and
the words/wording it says are prescribed by law. The CFO is required to say those exact things, and they do.

[ultimaix]

I found a copy of Varsil post from Reddit here:
Someone should put this in your sticky section.
The guy has done his homework on this.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1526279-PAL-quot-Conditions-quot

[stevebc]

1) I think you're way too worried about this.

2) Again, yes- you can laminate them.

[RELOAD]

The back of my RPAL lists what my possession and acquisition privileges are. the paper lists the conditions of what I can do with my privileges I.E transport. Why the list is not on the card is because we are dealing with govt disfunction. Yes I carry the paper I also have a copy of it in the range bag.

[ultimaix]

The back of my RPAL lists what my possession and acquisition privileges are. the paper lists the conditions of what I can do with my privileges I.E transport. Why the list is not on the card is because we are dealing with govt disfunction. Yes I carry the paper I also have a copy of it in the range bag.

Great answer !
- That's why they want me to carry this paper.
- Mine is blank because I don't have anything registered.
- They are to stupid to fix this.

Thanks for explaining that !

And this has been going on to everyone since 2007.
I just haven't noticed until now...

[labradort]

Over the years, I have renewed my RPAL four times and I have never seen this.
This last time took 6 months and...

When it finally arrived it was glued to a form that stated:
Please detach the licence conditions printed below and keep them with your licence at all times.
If requested by a peace officer or other authority, you must be able to provide both your licence and the licence conditions.

At the bottom of the form there is 'cut along the dotted line'
And the 'Conditions - Possession and Acquisition' section is below.
This section is blank with only my name, DOB, and licence number on it.
There is a 'Conditions' section on the back of my plastic PAL card, it is also blank.

Am I really required to carry this piece of paper with my licence?
What is the penalty if I am caught without it?
What if I am out in the rain hunting?
Am I allowed to laminate it?
Why must I carry it? There is no additional information on this form that is not on my plastic PAL card.

I am hoping someone can shed some light on this for me?
Are there any firearm instructors around that can help?

Thanks in advance !

p.s.
I have tried uploading a picture of this form, but I am not having any success on here.
Can I email someone the picture so they can post it on here for me?
Thanks !

The first time I received that paper with the PAL glued on, I treated it like the paper that has one's bank card would be glued to.

I didn't read the paper, I took my ID card off it and threw it away.

I thought my registration of certain firearms covered what basis there was for me owning them, and the common sense act by Harper created automatic ATTs for them.

Later I saw some debate online, maybe here, about it, and so the next time I had my PAL sent, I studied it closer and learned it has a legal value, in theory.

Like everything else in this game, its rigged for failure, and they have easy opportunities to hassle people over nothing. Paper will crinkle, fade, get lost....