Is somebody messing with the logo?

Off-topic question for Telos, after checking your website.

Have you seen a shift, in your direction, since Shopify and other shopping cart and payment processors started working against the gun industry?

Also, what are "martial companies", as stated in your main page?

We bailed a ton of companies in Canada off Shopify after their disastrous policy changes. I haven't seen a shift as much as we have had to open deeper conversations with them to help them understand that firearms companies are actually very LOW risk. They are vetted at every government level and often are generational in nature with strong community ties. Once we communicate this to them most come around and we partner with them.

"Martial companies" is the way we describe firearms, knives and combatives companies. Basically anyone who won't get a fair shake from Facebook or Google, and isn't pr0n or weed.



Are you gonna fix this latest issue? It's really annoying. Especially on mobile. Oh, any plans to make a proper mobile version?

We are doing a full site assessment now to determine what options we have in terms of data security, performance, features and modernization of the site. That includes responsive (mobile friendly) design.

I can't speak for the owners, and it's not my place to identify them here, but I can say that they care about this community, and are intent on growing it.
 
At this time the owner is keeping themselves out of the spot light.
It is some in the industry and believes in GOC.
 
All I needed to hear is it's not bill blair.

Pay no attention to the man (?) behind the curtains.

To be fair, the reason that most people came here in the first place was to be part of a forum that didn't have a corporate owner. We wanted something independent that had come from the grass roots.

What this place has become is a bit of an embarrassment. We are really just a CGN lite. We don't even have that much gun content here. It's mostly a political forum.
 
To be fair, the site is really more owners, the people, than it is about the inanimate objects we enjoy. And the reality of gun ownership is, it's political.

But yes, once a community forum becomes part of corporate business plan, then dollars and cents become more important than the people. Let's hope that's the case here. Perhaps this is why the new ownership is being kept a secret.
 
We don't even have that much gun content here. It's mostly a political forum.

That's what happens under a Liberal government. Under a Conservative government people actually get to enjoy their firearms and buy more not worry about bans and more restrictions.
 
I have no worries about the new owners, if that helps. Nor have I seen any changes in our mod operations since the change.
Still business as usual for us.
 
I have no worries about the new owners, if that helps. Nor have I seen any changes in our mod operations since the change.
Still business as usual for us.

Business as usual other than the company jet being tied up more often. Kind of annoying. I had to drive on my last vacation, like a peasant.
 
That's ridiculous. Did they at least pay for the rental car?
 
Union rep or not it looks really f’in retarded with the giant grey bald spot.
 
Well at least I’ll get to enjoy Phil Lamarr once the kid discovers it….
 
Ah so its a propaganda ploy conspiracy theory by my little ponies that can only be solved by Alberta separation

Not quite. You guys used to have the GOC banner on the header div a span style graphic that was better optimized for desktop traffic.

Now you switched to an icon style graphic, I think maybe to try to create a better mobile experience, but it creates a HUGE dead space in your header, especially in desktop view.

That's pretty poor UX and graphic's design, since white space like that on your above-the-fold site real estate is a huge waste.

You could stuff that space full of ads or CTA's to promotions, which would help boost revenue and attract traffic.

Here's some screenshots to illustrate what I mean:

GOC Old Header.jpg

Space filled with the graphic at least directs user attention to the "GOC" / "Gun Owners of Canada" text which programs them to better remember / access the page through search.

GOC New Header.png

The dead space makes "GOC" "Gun Owners of Canada" text harder to recognize on first glance, which for first time users doesn't create a powerful enough of an impression that would help them access the sight later through search.
 
You can't take an outdated template like the one in use here now and made it responsive. You can try to make it mobile friendly but that really won't work too well and isn't worth the effort attempting to tweak things.

GOC should put the old desktop logo back and install a second user selectable template that is mobile friendly. This is the common solution for vBulletin sites of this "vintage".
 



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