NFA Press Release: NFA HEADS TO THE SUPREME COURT!

[Doug_M]

Owners of affected firearms should contact the range they intend to visit prior to attendance, in order to confirm the range can accommodate their firearm."

They don't say prohibited there, just a vague line to discourage people I think.

If you can transport your firearm as a non-restricted, why can you only shoot it at an approved range? Why not the gravel pit? Why can you only sell it to businesses or museams allowed to acquire prohibs?
All the amnesty really does is allow the owner to temporarily act as a prohib pal holder for those specific firearms.

The amnesty was worded such that it specifically states shoot at a range and does not state shoot on crown land or private property. Either a blunder or some misguided deliberate wording. I think the former as I haven't seen government write good law regarding firearms yet!

 

[RobSmith]

The tricky part is that the firearm is still technically 12(3) prohib, and the reason why the govt won't issue SAPs to go shoot prohib firearms (other than prohib handguns) is that CFOs unilaterally yanked approval for the discharge of such firearms (otherwise they would still be issuing them for that purpose), AFAIK SAP's are still issued for changes of address, gun shows, gunsmiths etc but not shooting and the excuse given is that clubs aren't approved for that.

They don't say prohibited there, just a vague line to discourage people I think.

 

[MadMax]

Have you met Sheldon? Talked to him? Communicated via email? Been to his facebook page?

Yes and he cut our conversation short, Yes and my questions were directed to Shawn and I never got a response. and Been kicked off their facebook page for voicing concern about the direction of the Organization.

 

[JRW (QOR)]

From the RCMP website: (the last line is significant)
"On July 23, 2014, the Government of Canada announced an expansion of this amnesty. It now permits the owner of an affected firearm to:
a.possess the firearm;
b.deliver the firearm to a peace officer, firearms officer or chief firearms officer;
c.sell or give the firearm to a business — including a museum — authorized to acquire and possess prohibited firearms;
d.transport the firearm for the purposes of (b) or (c) or
e.use the firearm in target practice or at a target shooting competition under the auspices of an approved shooting club or shooting range, and transport it for this purpose.

Owners of affected firearms should contact the range they intend to visit prior to attendance, in order to confirm the range can accommodate their firearm."

If you can transport your firearm as a non-restricted, why can you only shoot it at an approved range? Why not the gravel pit? Why can you only sell it to businesses or museams allowed to acquire prohibs?
All the amnesty really does is allow the owner to temporarily act as a prohib pal holder for those specific firearms.

CFO of NS says go and shoot at your club. Qc CFO says no. A club is going to contact their CFO's if they are inclined not to understand the amnesty, and the CFO is going to tell them what the CFO wants to tell them, regardless of what the intent of the Amnesty means. It makes no sense that Blaney would bring in the amendment with the intent to NOT allow you to use them at any licensed range.

I'd really be interested in Solomon's take on this, from what I've seen of his interviews, you are good to go to any licensed range regardless of them being prohib.

 

[Shalimar]

Kickass Soloman.. and the NFA! Excellent news indeed and it should be of great value in these cases.

 

[Shalimar]

CFO of NS says go and shoot at your club. Qc CFO says no. A club is going to contact their CFO's if they are inclined not to understand the amnesty, and the CFO is going to tell them what the CFO wants to tell them, regardless of what the intent of the Amnesty means. It makes no sense that Blaney would bring in the amendment with the intent to NOT allow you to use them at any licensed range.

I'd really be interested in Solomon's take on this, from what I've seen of his interviews, you are good to go to any licensed range regardless of them being prohib.

I posted a response from the NS CFO on this elsewhere.. but since it's relevant here it is even tough it's a dupe of my other post (of sorts)

 

[RangeBob]

The most-legal/most-safe interpretation is that some ranges are certified for prohibited firearms. Some are certified up to full auto.
Apparently none in Quebec are so certified.
There are some in Ontario and some in British Columbia -- I don't know about other provinces.
The revised "swiss arms" amnesty says that for the purposes of transport and shooting, you may take it to the range. That if you had an ATT for it before (restricted) you can use that ATT now. If you didn't need an ATT before (non-restricted) you don't need an ATT now.
The Quebec CFO says that's only if the range is certified for prohib.

Are there any ATTs in Canada that list each firearm by serial number? If so, an ATT may be required to have the change -- I doubt the CFO would refuse to do it. They'd be in the newspaper the next day.

There are less safe interpretations. Or DOD ranges.

I thought that some little prohib pistols could be taken to a range, and an ATT covered them and they didn't require an SAP. (no full autos) But I don't know at all.

 

[JRW (QOR)]

Thx, seems to settle the issue. Did you send this to the NFA?

 

[RobSmith]

SAP regulations stipulate that an ATT is fine for transporting prohibited handguns.

I thought that some little prohib pistols could be taken to a range, and an ATT covered them and they didn't require an SAP. (no full autos) But I don't know at all.

 

[RangeBob]

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