Alternative News Media - Where does it belong on GOC?

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A place that shall not be mentioned recently implemented a cross forum ban on alternative media websites and blogs.

There are a lot of readers of survivalblog, zerohedge, shtfplan, economiccollapseblog, dollarvigilante, etc. and the alternative media is known for having a lot of "tin foil hat" and conspiracy theory stories, but also have a lot of VERY informative stories and perspectives generally not contained in the main stream media.

Perhaps an forum dedicated to alternative media would be well received - with a warning that the content might be a bit extreme at times (i.e. - suggesting governments will default on their debts, monetize their debts, ban gun ownership, etc.).

Even though a lot of stuff the blogosphere/alternative media covers angers a lot of people - a "Tin foil hat" forum would probably be well received by the folks who were banned from a place not to be mentioned ;)
 
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Well....it'll be up to Jon, 50, and Jwire...and perhaps a membership vote ? Definitely not my call. Some of the stuff I've seen posted in various places over the years is nothing short of ludicrous, but entertaining at the same time....then again, my tollerance for tinfoil content is higher than most. LOL.
 
lone-wolf said:
No not me, just the people who pay me.
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harbl_the_cat said:
Perhaps an forum dedicated to alternative media would be well received -....
....a "Tin foil hat" forum would probably be well received by the folks who were banned from a place not to be mentioned ;)
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Umm. you mean like this one?
http://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/forumdisplay.php?41-Prepping-for-the-future

Keep it in there. It is much easier for "us" to monitor.
Your cooperation will be noted, and earn you Solyent credits after the collapse.

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harbl_the_cat said:
A place that shall not be mentioned recently implemented a cross forum ban on alternative media websites and blogs.

a "Tin foil hat" forum would probably be well received by the folks who were banned from a place not to be mentioned ;)
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What place that shall not be mentioned? Do you mean Canadian Gunnutz? One of the things I love about this forum is that "places that shall not be mentioned" don't exist here. Just say what you have to say . . .
 
Canuck said:
What place that shall not be mentioned? Do you mean Canadian Gunnutz? One of the things I love about this forum is that "places that shall not be mentioned" don't exist here. Just say what you have to say . . .
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Well... yeah...

Thing is I think some of the folks in charge over there don't tolerate tin-foil at all and are pro actively censoring/banning posters who post alternative media, lambasting them as tin-foil hatters (which admittedly, sometimes they are).

That said, forums are privately run businesses, and I completely respect their right to censor and regulate whatever conversations are hosted within their domain, but provided articles are not inciting anything illegal - I don't understand why the need to censor them at all? Forums generate revenue by having happy subscribers posting diverse content.

To that end, I think having a separate clearly established "tin foil" forum 1) keeps those sorts of discussions contained and localized 2) establishes the context that anything posted within it is not, as they say over there: "News Articlesfrom Real News Outlets ONLY - NO PERSONAL/FRINGE/LOBBYING BLOGS"

I got a little slap for posting these stories, even if they sound pretty extreme and though the companies producing them are doing so to solicit subscribers - I think at the very least they are thought provoking and great discussion starters (I've had several PM's to that affect from disgruntled users over there - and I have referred a handful of them to come on over here).

http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2012/11/19/government-plans-retirement-heist-calls-it-charity.html


I think over here, you can have your cake and eat it too - have a "Tin Foil News" forum, and a "Real News" forum. That would keep the old dog "Real News" guys happy, and the crazy young "tin foil" guys happy too!
 
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Rory McCanuck said:
Umm. you mean like this one?
http://www.gunownersofcanada.ca/forumdisplay.php?41-Prepping-for-the-future

Keep it in there. It is much easier for "us" to monitor.
Your cooperation will be noted, and earn you Solyent credits after the collapse.

Back to your regularly scheduled programme....
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The prepping forum is more themed around prepping.

I'm talking about a forum from alternative news media sights that occasionally have overlap with prepping, but focus more on news the mainstream news tends to ignore or censor. Perhaps something as a sub-forum of the actual news forum?
 
harbl_the_cat said:
Well... yeah...

Thing is I think some of the folks in charge over there don't tolerate tin-foil at all and are pro actively censoring/banning posters who post alternative media, lambasting them as tin-foil hatters (which admittedly, sometimes they are).

That said, forums are privately run businesses, and I completely respect their right to censor and regulate whatever conversations are hosted within their domain, but provided articles are not inciting anything illegal - I don't understand why the need to censor them at all? Forums generate revenue by having happy subscribers posting diverse content.

To that end, I think having a separate clearly established "tin foil" forum 1) keeps those sorts of discussions contained and localized 2) establishes the context that not, as they say over there: "News Articlesfrom Real News Outlets ONLY - NO PERSONAL/FRINGE/LOBBYING BLOGS"

I got a little slap for posting these stories, even if they sound pretty extreme and though the companies producing them are doing so to solicit subscribers - I think at the very least they are thought provoking and great discussion starters (I've had several PM's to that affect from disgruntled users over there - and I have referred a handful of them to come on over here).
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Who cares what they (he) tolerates or doesn't. That is there and this is here. Two different worlds.

You just answered your own question. They (he) doesn't want to lose subscribers or business to another forum. It has nothing to do with hating "tin foil types".
 
Canuck said:
Who cares what they (he) tolerates or doesn't. That is there and this is here. Two different worlds.

You just answered your own question. They (he) doesn't want to lose subscribers or business to another forum. It has nothing to do with hating "tin foil types".
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Granted - I'm more talking about the fact that public internet forums don't have to respect the right to free speech and the CGN and GOC owners (and the moderators they appoint) have complete power to censor whatever they want. That said, I think a number of people over there (self included) are getting frustrated by the fact that much of the content they would like to discuss isn't welcomed and pro-actively censored. That's fine - it's their shop, they can run it however they like, just as users can choose to not post there.

That said, I think a real opportunity presents itself (especially for GOC) to offer a platform/forum, to welcome and centralize those discussions not welcomed on CGN.

Personally, I prefer GOC - but, for now, CGN has a bigger marketplace and more bronies, so grudgingly, I go back there.

It's up to them if they want to remain competitive or not and alienate their users by letting thought-police moderators filter all the interesting, juicy conversations - but I think it's there loss, and concurrently gain for anyone who doesn't do likewise.
 
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There are better places for tin foil hat discussions, where the members wouldn't be open to ridicule and the discussion would likely be more sustained.
I don't join a ford forum and expect them to be open a chevy news subforum.

That's how I see it, but could care less if such a forum existed here.
 
lone-wolf said:
There are better places for tin foil hat discussions, where the members wouldn't be open to ridicule and the discussion would likely be more sustained.
I don't join a ford forum and expect them to be open a chevy news subforum.

That's how I see it, but could care less if such a forum existed here.
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Well....this place isn't just about guns.....it's more like a social media site with a focus on guns, where people who own guns can come and talk about guns AND other stuff. That's my perception anyway. Ok.....what does everybody think about this...and I'll have to run it by admin and the other mods before I do it.....how about a sticky in the news section titled something like "Alternative News - Warning: May Contain Tinfoil" ? :D We just don't want to get a billion sections going and get things to the point where the forums page is 10 pages long.
 
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